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next week danish astronaut andreas

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mogensen is scheduled for a first of its

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kind experiment operation during his

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week-long visit to the international

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space station this experiment is called

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interact and in it he will be operating

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a rover on the earth from the internet

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from inside the international space

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station with controls that will give him

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tactile force feedback as the robot

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encounters resistance this experiment is

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a product of the european space agency's

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tele-robotics and haptics lab in the

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netherlands and joining us today is the

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principal investigator for that dr andre

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sheila joining us this morning dr andre

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sheila how are you doing today

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thanks i'm very fine

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you had a precursor to this experiment

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previously on the international space

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station what were you able to learn from

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the first version of this experiment

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that is correct in june this year we

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actually performed the first network

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connectivity test uh between our force

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reflective joystick on the space station

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and another force reflective joystick

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that we had here on ground in norwich at

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the laboratories in isa

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and we tested out the delay and the

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bandwidths and the signal quality that

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we can achieve by sending these

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bilateral control signals between space

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and ground through the tetris ku forward

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link so signals travel about 90 000

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kilometers and we didn't know exactly

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how much delay it would give because for

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the robotic controls it's an essential

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metric to know

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so we performed a remote handshake which

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was a visual test that we do did with

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terry wurtz and kimia yui uh in june and

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and august and we are now ready we know

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about the properties of this link and we

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are now ready to move on to the next

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bigger step to actually control the full

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robotic system

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next week

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the cinetar from inside the

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international space station can you

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describe that hardware for us and its

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design

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right centaur is actually a new robot

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that we designed it's uh it's a five to

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six hundred kilogram

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class rover it has four wheels it can

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drive and steer as any normal vehicle

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actually it's a it's a pretty fast robot

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so we decided to make something that's

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fast and that can operate at human scale

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type of speeds uh it has two arms that

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are seven degrees of freedom each

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like your human arms so they can reach

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out to objects to the ground they can

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reach up they can manipulate

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together with humans and the robot arms

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are very specific because they are very

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force sensitive they can be controlled

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in compliance control which means they

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can render any stiffness damping that we

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program it to and this way interact

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center can interact with stiff objects

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and it can assemble mechanical

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facilities or do complex tasks that

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require force control so it looks a bit

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like wally online media

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wrote but

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other media wrote they compared it with

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number five so i'm not sure which robots

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that is famous looks closest to it

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so tell me about the experiment where

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will the centaur be what will mogensen

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have it do and how will you determine

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whether it was a success or not

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so morganson will be in the columbus

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module on the international space

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station he will use our haptics one

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joystick and a tablet pc that's all he

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to control that robotics system on the

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surface

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the robot itself has many many degrees

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of freedom about 30 degrees of freedom

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so we design specific graphical user

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interfaces for him now the task that he

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has to complete is actually a sub

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millimeter position task where he has to

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actually mate a connector into a socket

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with a tolerance of only 150 micrometers

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in order to do that he first needs to

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scan around the environment here in

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north like we have an indoor environment

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where the robot is located so we are

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independent from the weather condition

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which is known not always to be optimal

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in the netherlands

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and he needs to scan the the indoor

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environment to look for a task board

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after that he has to use the tablet pc

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to actually real time control that robot

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to drive towards that task board and

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park in front of task board at a

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suitable location

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for this he will be using augmented

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reality that we implant implemented in

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the video stream in order to hint him at

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ideal locations for that robot for arm

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money pullability afterwards

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so once he parked he will need to

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control the robotic arm via the tablet

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pc and the joystick to actually insert

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that pack into the hole or the connector

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into its sockets

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dr sheila so what are the future space

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technology applications and also what

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are some of the earth applications we

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could see from this experiment

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well in space much talk has happened

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about combined human robotic exploration

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in the future and um

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ideas have been brought out for humans

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to go back to mars or or to moon or

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perhaps to an asteroid what we decided

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at esa is to actually prepare generic

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technologies that would allow a somewhat

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different mission scenario

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in our case we promote humans being in

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orbiting stations around planets

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so for example if you take mars uh it is

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currently impossible to send humans to

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the surface of mars but it would be

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perhaps quite possible to actually send

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humans to an orbit around mars and have

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robotics located on the martian surface

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to do human-like tasks so

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interact will demonstrate in fact

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technologies how human presence can be

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projected into those robotic systems

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that are on planetary surfaces without

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requiring humans to be there

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applications can be multiple ranging

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setting up telescope facilities for

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example on the lunar surface on the far

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side of the moon or extracting

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minerals and doing geophysical research

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on mass or other bodies

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so there are multiple application cases

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we could actually invert the scenario as

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well and have humans on the surface

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control robotics with this technology in

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the space environment if we're thinking

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about satellite servicing or debris

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removal where intuitive controlled

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robots could catch satellites and tow

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them to different locations

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and earth the applications are similar

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so in any places basically where humans

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cannot go for example in the deep sea if

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you think of deep water horizon uh

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robotics was heavily used to actually

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fix the problem of the oil spell

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oil spill

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so with the technology we are showing

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this would be probably a bit more

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efficient and more intuitive or

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fukushima as another example as a

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disaster site where these robotic

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systems could intervene

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well dr sheila we appreciate you so much

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for joining us this morning and telling